Pensions Offer - What the Unions Say

Andy Lord, Branch Secretary

Dear Colleagues

 

Further to my recent emails to your work addresses please find below a summary of the position of other Public Sector unions in respect of the various Public Sector pension schemes. This clarifies clearly that contrary to much Government spin PCS is not isolated and almost all other unions have to a greater or lesser extent made it clear they are not yet signing up to any agreement with the Government due to failures to move on the central issues of the intention to make public servants pay more, work longer and receive a lesser Pension together with a lack of much clear details in a number of critical areas.

 

Due to the fact that industrial action has been taken around this subject and that the statement below is a clear refutation of the political assertion by the Government that an agreement has been reached this email is being sent to your home address to avid any possible contravention of H|MRC guidance on using HMRC facilities to promote industrial action.

 

If there are any further updates over the holiday period I will endeavour to keep you informed but in the meantime can I take the opportunity once again to wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year

 

Andy Lord

Branch Secretary

PCS South East Essex

 

 

PCS has reiterated its commitment to negotiating - but ministers have refused to talk about the three core issues.

 

These are forcing public servants to pay hundreds of pounds more each year in pensions contributions; to work for up to eight years longer and to receive much less in retirement - in many cases, tens of thousands of pounds less
 
It’s not true - as some commentators have implied - that all the other unions involved have signed up to the government’s proposal.
 
Civil service pension scheme
 
PCS has talked of more strikes if the core issues are not resolved.
 
NIPSA - the biggest public sector union in Northern Ireland - says it "will be working with our colleagues in PCS to determine if further action in respect of civil service pensions is possible."
Read the NIPSA statement
 
Prospect, which also represents civil servants, says on its website: ”Prospect has agreed to enter a further round of talks on the government's plans to change the civil service pension scheme.

“But while it has suspended industrial action for the duration of the talks, it has reserved the right to take further action if the talks break down.”

Read the Prospect statement
 
The FDA union, which represents senior civil servants and tax collectors, said: “The FDA has not at this stage agreed to a new scheme, only that the negotiations have reached a point where the key elements will be put to our executive committee at a later date, following further negotiations on a number of outstanding issues.
“No agreement will be concluded until all members have had their say in a ballot.”
Read the FDA statement
 
The Prison Officers' Association has told the government "that the POA would not endorse the 'heads of agreement' as outlined in their formal offer until there has been a suitable conclusion to our negotiations on the normal pension age."
Read the POA statement
 
(UPDATE - Wednesday 21 December) The Union News website is reporting that Unite has said it was "bounced" into signing the civil service pension scheme agreement and suspended talks with the government.
Read the full story
 

      Teachers' pension scheme
 
Christine Blower, general secretary of the National Union of Teachers, said: “Following lengthy discussions the NUT was not able to sign up to the government’s headline proposals.
“There was insufficient progress in terms of the government’s position that teachers should work longer, pay more and get less.
"In the NUT we reserved our position due to lack of progress but also the lack of documentation in certain critical areas.”
Read the NUT statement
 
The NASUWT teaching union says on it s website: “The NASUWT has not signed the Department for Education heads of agreement document and has reserved its position, insisting on further information from the government.”
In a detailed statement general secretary Chris Keates says the government still wants teachers “to pay more, receive less and work longer for their pensions.”
Chris goes on: “Teachers would expect their negotiators to insist on a detailed examination of the implications of the DfE’s proposals and to exercise due diligence. In the timescale imposed by the government, this simply was not possible.”
Read the full NASUWT statement
 
UCAC - a Welsh teachers union - decided not to sign an agreement with the government. General Secretary Elaine Edwards said: “The talks have been constructive; but the latest proposals still don’t fully address the principal concerns of UCAC’s members. We cannot agree to this proposal without further discussion."
Dim cytundeb ar bensiynau athrawon
Read the UCAC statement in English
 
Sally Hunt, general secretary of the University and College Union, said: "Following extensive talks with government officials UCU, together with the NUT, UCAC, and NASUWT, has decided to reserve its position on the proposed agreement."
Read the full UCU statement
 
Local government pension scheme
 
On Tuesday 20 December Unison, GMB, and Unite - the UK's three biggest unions - suspended the agreement they had made with the government over the local government pension scheme.
 
On Wednesday 21 December Unison and the GMB said talks were "back on track".
Read statement on Unison website
The Union News website reported that Unite had suspended talks until January.
Read the Union News report
 
Health service pension scheme
 
In the health talks the workers' representatives signed up to the “heads of agreement” but expressed concerns saying: “The staff side are clear that there are important issues still to be resolved and that the final decision on agreeing or otherwise will be taken by each union in line with their own democratic processes."
The statement was issued on behalf of the British Association of Occupational Therapists, British Dental Association, British Dietetics Association, British Medical Association, British and Irish Orthoptic Society, Chartered Society of Physiotherapy, Federation of Clinical Scientists, GMB, Hospital Consultants and Specialist Association, Managers in Partnership, Royal College of Midwives, Royal College of Nursing, Society of Chiropodists and Podiatrists, Society of Radiographers, and Unison.
The POA is not part of the negotiating body but represents workers in secure psychiatric hospitals. The union said: "Our members at Ashworth, Broadmoor, Carstairs and Rampton will be consulted to determine what is acceptable to them."
Read the POA statement